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Artex Removal - Any Magic Bullets or just re-plaster?


(Amateurhour64) #1

Morning all.

Yep, the bane of all banes…

Got one ceiling with thick swirl artex. Would say professionally applied.

Got another three bedroom ceilings with thin build poorly applied gritty artex clearly to cover cracks and board movement.

Is it worth to try removal or just skim over the lot? Is there a chemical treatment or method that is worth to try? Plaster underneath appears sound and level.

Would love to find that magic bullet. Many thanks


(Paints and Interiors) #2

Look at using the Dunlop High Bond renovation filler.

Look at the video - specifically aimed at just this scenario.

We sell it here if needed.

Kind regards

Ben

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(Amateurhour64) #3

Looks the job Ben…it looks reasonably forgiving to apply as well.

You have prices for that Ben? Also rough idea of coverage for a box would be really helpful. Got a few ceilings to do…happy days!!!

So you think best to avoid trying to strip…removal of high points and a quick sand aside?

Thanks for that Ben.


(Paints and Interiors) #4

Coverage is for every mm of depth you need 1kg/m2

I would knock off high points and skim.

Boxes are either in 2kg or 5kg bags.

What sort of area have you got to do??

Kind regards Ben

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Ben

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(dave D9 decor) #5

I always get a plasterer in!


(Amateurhour64) #6

Wish our budget stretched to that Dave…it’s not Amateurhour Towers this time, it’s an auction purchase for daughter B! So we have a budget on this one that is fairly tight.

Take your point mind…time Vs cost divided by pain = ???


(Amateurhour64) #7

Hi Ben, here is the floor-plan as follows:

It’s the entire ground floor and the small bedroom. So that’s roughly 42 square meters I think.


(markjuk) #8

You have to be careful if thinking of removing high points/sanding as Artex can contain asbestos.

I was asked over the weekend if I can make 2 heavily textured artexed ceilings flat. I did something similar last year so here’s what I’m doing:.

Took samples from both ceilings, bagged them up and sent them to Cornerstone Safety (http://www.diyasbestostesting.co.uk). It cost £40 for the 2 samples to be tested. I posted them recorded delivery yesterday and I was emailed the testing report in pdf format this evening. Both samples tested negative for asbestos.

Clear the rooms of all fixtures and fittings and cover the floors with strong polythene sheets. Steam softens artex so I will get my steamer set up in a room and leave it to fill the room for half an hour or so. Once it is soft enough I will then scrape it off just as you would wallpaper. Even though the tests for asbestos were negative I will still be wearing a coverall with hood, goggles and mask.

Once all scraped off I will let it dry and then sand with Mirka Deros. Carry out any repairs, sand, clean off, primer/sealer, line and paint.

Take waste artex to local waste disposal depot with my test certificate for safe disposal.


(Amateurhour64) #9

Hi Mark, have to confess to never considering that. Have to say Mrs AH64 also said the same and I dismissed it some.

I think in reality the kitchen artex is too new to have any asbestos risk but guess I should not assume that. And I guess it’s also what might be underneath as well.

OK that’s a very sensible road block I had not considered.

Yeah I might give the steam a go…two of the rooms have then been glossed over to make it even more hellish!

Depending how tight it is fixed on I may use the re-finish Ben mentioned on the lower build stuff (depending on cost) and then try steaming the heavier stuff after having it tested.

Solid advice Mark, appreciate that.


(greenpainting) #10

Go with Mark’s suggestion - all Artex should be tested. It isn’t worth the risk and even knocking off the high points releases fibres if they’re in there.

If the tests show asbestos is present then the job isn’t so straight forward although there is a product out there that claims to remove artex safely and locks in the fibres. Skimming solves the problem short term but you need to remember any time the ceiling is disturbed with drilling for example, the fibres are there.

So test first and then plan the job - but do test.


(Amateurhour64) #11

There are times when you wish you never asked but know that the answer you got was the answer you needed!! to quote the famous line by Jules out of Pulp Fiction…“If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions.” :wink:

Yes entirely solid advice and will be doing that. Many thanks greenpainting


(Paints and Interiors) #12

Anything from about '88 should be fine as they stopped adding Asbestos to
Atrex in about '84.It is also the case that they stopped using Asbestos in
Artex before that as well. If you said around 1990 then you have given the
benefit of the doubt. If you are any doubt look at the link
http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/

Kind regards,

Ben

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(Amateurhour64) #13

Hi Ben…in reality it does look very new…I’d say way more recent than that in fact. But it is good to know about the risk and H&S side of things. Have to say I’ve not been particularly good at that sort of thing in the past.

The one room is proper big swirl artex. The other rooms are that low build stuff…I forget the name but its like a grit in thin artex mix that is used to cover cracks etc.

Even if we do the testing and learn from that we are still going to need the materials to refinish so prices / quantities etc with a view to buy are useful. I think reality says we will smooth over with the material you mention then use Prestonett Join filler to get it absolutely smooth.

Will have a read of the link you sent as well…thanks for that